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Monday, November 05, 2012

PM announces child abuse enquiry for Wales. Been here before.


Dear Tap
some positive news:
Today Nov 5Wales child abuse: PM orders sex abuse inquiry probe
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20204687
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20202722
Nov 4Children's Commissioner for Wales calls for abuse probe'Listening to what has been going on in the last 24 or 48 hours leads me feeling that there are people walking around now who perhaps shouldn't have been, or should have at least answered for their actions in a criminal court'



I saw the interview on Sunday and he seemed very sincere
He said that anyone who has anything should bring it to his attention


TAP - forgive a little scepticism on my part.  All moves are attempts to move attention away from the powerful.  Ken Clarke, for example, wants news that moves the camera away from his face.  The Royal family want news to expose politicians.  Politicians want celebrities exposed, and throw them to the dogs to save themselves.  An enquiry was bound to be set up as the standard fig leaf for government embarrassment.  Tom Watson is oozing 'I surrender' messages in his letter below.

Contact
You can get in touch with us at either of our offices:
Children & young people's freephone number: 0808 801 1000
Or text 80 800 start your message with COM
Children's Commissioner for Wales
Oystermouth House
Phoenix Way
Llansamlet
Swansea
SA7 9FS

01792 765600
Children's Commissioner for Wales
Penrhos Manor
Oak Drive
Colwyn Bay
Conwy
LL29 7YW

01492 523333

I only hope more people will now come forward

TAP - why should any victim trust any government department to help them.  All they want is to get more flesh to feed the child abuse machine.

he has a twitter page link on the webpage for the Welsh commissioner
http://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/info/contact


Also
 
I looked into the roles of the childrens commissioners The english commissioner has less powers than the others thanks to Margaret Hodge
the Children’s Commissioner for EnglandFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaa few quotes -

'The Children’s Commissioner states that they "will use our powers and independence to ensure that the views of children and young people are routinely asked for, listened to and acted upon and that outcomes for children improve over time".

They say they will "do this, in partnership with others, by bringing children and young people into the heart of the decision-making process to increase understanding of their best interests".

Unlike the Children’s Commissioner for Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, the Children’s Commissioner for England cannot deal with individual cases but would conduct an investigation that effects the wider population'


TAP - why the fuck not?  We've seen the false enquiries into institutional paedophile abuse over and over again.  Why will this be any different?  OK it was announced by the Prime Minister, but that don't mean a lot these days.

'In March 2005, the first Children's Commissioner for England was appointed, to give children and young people a voice in Government and in public life. The Commissioner will pay particular attention to gathering and putting forward the views of the most vulnerable children and young people in society, and will promote their involvement in the work of organisations whose decisions and actions affect them'

'Although a lynchpin of UNCRC provisions, the government strenuously resisted appointment of a Children's Commissioner on the basis that newly created agents were sufficient e.g. Minister for Children and Families and the Director of Children's Rights. After several tragedies and the death of Victoria Climbie, the Laming report of January 2003 recommended creation of the post.[31] However, the then Children’s Minister Margaret Hodge won her battle to have five references to the word "rights" removed from the description of the role. She also altered the position from promoting and safeguarding the rights of children in England to promoting awareness of their views.[32] When the Commissioner for England was appointed in 2005, the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children commented'

"the England Children Commissioner office does not meet the European standards set out for all European Commissioners.... the NSPCC believes that the Commissioner’s remit and responsibilities should be more closely tied to the UNCRC... which the Government ratified in 1991, granting all children a comprehensive set of economic, social, civil and political rights(National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children)"
http://www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/info/contact

TAP - NSPCC, that useless set-up run by paedophile-in-chief Peter Mandelson.
 
Children's Commissioner for Wale
sFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia'The Children's Commissioner for Wales[1] is a publicly funded post in Wales, with responsibility for protecting children's rights as set out in the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Peter Clarke was the Commissioner from its introduction in 2001 until his death in 2007. The job interview process was notable for including children as panelists alongside adults. Keith Towler became Wales' second Children's Commissioner on 1 March 2008.'
 
The website of welsh commissioner
Comment : The english site is not very good. LAST TIME THEY ISSUED PRESS STATEMENT OR E-NEWSLETTER was about a year ago according to the site
The Welsh site is much better although no comments on it as yet about recent events
But his twitter page has lots of tweets supporting his interview yesterday
 
I do hope anyone who can will support him and Tom Watson and speak out
Wellwisher
havent been able to paste active links

COMMENT - Savile advised Prince Charles about recruiting a top aide....someone who understood the needs of paedophile abusers no doubt.

TOM WATSON -

The Rt Hon David Cameron MP
Prime Minister
10 Downing Street
London
SW1A 2AA

5 November 2012



Dear Mr Cameron,

Congratulations on ordering a review of what information government departments may hold about organised child abuse at the heart of government 30 years ago.

In acting swiftly you have sent an important message about how seriously you take this matter. You have done the right thing and I commend you for it.

And the inquiry that you have announced performs a useful function. It is certainly important that government departments trawl their archives to see what documents they hold. But my experience of uncovering massive establishment conspiracies leaves me in no doubt that what you have suggested does not go anything like far enough. Its limited scope may even slow things down, muddy waters, damage trails. What is needed is a much wider, but equally immediate, investigation.

Since sharing my concerns with you at PMQs, a number of people have come forward to say that they raised their suspicions with the police, but investigations were not carried out. One allegation involves alleged child abuse and a former cabinet minister. We both know that many untruths are told about politicians, but this allegation was specific, informed and appeared well corroborated.

Cutting through a concerted establishment cover-up requires meticulous, diligent, fearless commitment to uncover the truth, whomever it unmasks.

My advice to you as Prime Minister – and from one father to another – is that you need to order a special police investigation, outside the affected forces, with proper resources, to review all relevant police files and those of the intelligence services. If they have documents suggesting politicians in the Commons and Lords or others in positions of power were involved in child abuse then they should make them available to a new inquiry team.

The forces so far known of be affected (Met, Surrey, West and South Yorkshire, West Mercia, Dorset, Kent, Essex, North Wales, Suffolk and Sussex) need to have their archives systematically searched for intelligence from witnesses/victims making claims which were not investigated; investigations which were closed down, and so on.

If what you really want – and I believe that it is – is the truth, then you must draw the terms of reference such that the police inquiry has licence to follow any lead it finds in what will be, after all, a serious criminal investigation. There should be no historic sexual abuse of children which is off limits to this investigation. The police should be supported by a dedicated team of child protection specialists, many of whom have been raising their concerns for years. Your advisers will tell you to be wary of “opening the floodgates”. They are wrong. Their decorous caution is the friend of the paedophile. Narrowing the inquiry equals hiding the truth. That is the reality and it is not what you want.

Detailed recommendations about how to organise an investigation is in the possession of the government. The 2002 guidance on Complex Child abuse investigations: Inter agency issues (Home Office and DoH) continues to be relevant and is referenced in Working Together to Safeguard Children 2010 Investigating complex (organised or multiple) abuse (p194 6.10-1.6.13).

A dedicated police unit is essential, investigating the organised abuse of children, wherever it happened – from the seediest backstreets even to Downing Street – without fear or favour of exposing the rich and powerful, or those who covered up for them.

And if it opens a floodgate of misery, then so be it. We will all feel dirtied and sickened – as we should. Victims have an absolute right to the whole truth.

I know you want to do this and ask that you give it your urgent attention.

You have no choice.

Yours sincerely

Tom Watson MP
Member of Parliament for West Bromwich East'

http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/

TAP - ever hopeful.  The Police are usually part of the problem.  Never mind 30 years ago.  The problem is far bigger today with the state stealing thousands of children from families to feed the insatiable demand of paedophiles, and the growing industry which pays billions in profits.

1 comment:

Julia said...

I don't think Tom Watson realises that Cameron is involved too, or maybe he is just playing it that way.

Look at this wording....
They say they will "do this, in partnership with others, by bringing children and young people into the heart of the decision-making process to increase understanding of their best interests"

That's what they are doing isn't it, bringing children into the heart of the decision making process, bringing little kids into the arena of the global elite, bringing them into the global paedophile network.
Everything is in double speak. We only see it one particular way because that is the way our thinking has been framed.
It is said that Shakespeare was the first person to use Doublespeak, or double entendre, and he knew a lot.