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Thursday, November 15, 2012

McAlpine gives his side of the story


Tory peer Lord McAlpine said it was "terrifying" to find himself "a figure of public hatred" after he was wrongly implicated in child abuse allegations.
He spoke after a BBC Newsnight report on child abuse in north Wales care homes led to allegations on the internet that he was a paedophile.
The ex-Tory party treasurer told BBC Radio 4's The World at One he should have been contacted before broadcast.
He also said the BBC had left him with a "legacy" that "can't be repaired".
Some of those involved in deciding to run the report on care homes in north Wales face disciplinary measures.
Lord McAlpine's lawyer told the BBC that a number of prominent people who had named his client on the internet - including Guardian columnist George Monbiot - had already apologised.
Media watchdog Ofcom has confirmed it is investigating both Newsnight and ITV's This Morning programme over the allegations.
ITV said "appropriate disciplinary action" had been taken after a presenter inadvertently broadcast a list of names of alleged child abusers taken from the internet.
Although Lord McAlpine was not named by Newsnight, the report led to a flood of accusations about him online.
The BBC, which has apologised "unreservedly" for the report, said it hoped to reach a "settlement" of the matter on Thursday.
'Extremely bad'
"I was in southern Italy. I don't have television, I don't get newspapers, we don't have the internet. To suddenly find I was mixed up in all this, and I didn't know what Newsnight was going to say, it really was a horrendous shock."
He added the BBC "should have called me" and he would have told them "that it was complete rubbish".
"They could have saved themselves a lot of agonising and money, actually, if they'd just made that telephone call."
He said "there is nothing as bad as this that you can do to people" as accusing them of being a paedophile..
"They are quite rightly figures of public hatred - and suddenly to find yourself a figure of public hatred, unjustifiably, is terrifying," he added.
The peer was asked about London Mayor Boris Johnson's comment that to call someone a paedophile was to "consign them to the lowest circle of hell - and while they're still alive".
He replied: "Absolutely. I think it describes pretty much what happened to me in the first few days of this event."
Asked if his reputation could ever be restored he said: "No, it can't be repaired.... This is the legacy that sadly the BBC have left me with."
'Clearly wrong'
Lord McAlpine's solicitor Andrew Reid said he hoped an agreement would be reached with the BBC on Thursday, but said his client was aware any payment would ultimately come from licence fee payers.
The BBC's statement said: "The BBC is hopeful that it can agree a settlement with Lord McAlpine today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20336037

TAP - It does seem odd that these allegations have been in the public domain for twenty years.  David Icke, for example, published Lord McAlpine's name as associated with paedophilia in his book The Biggest Secret, written in 1998, and yet no action was taken by Lord McAlpine to have the book removed from circulation.

The magazine Scallywag carried similar allegations in the 1990s.  OK the editor of Scallywag died in unexplained circumstances, as have many victims/witnesses, but is it only now that Lord McAlpine has decided to deal with the allegations by addressing them directly with threats to sue and demands for compensation.  If he is , as he says, entirely innocent, and the whole thing has been caused by mistaken identity, I would only ask why he took so long to say so.  He says he should have been contacted personally, and asked directly.

He says his reputation cannot be restored.  Is that really so?

If he is genuinely accused by mistaken identity, he needs only make sure we all understand that, and we see Steve Messham speaking openly saying he was mistaken about McAlpine's identity, and we would all feel very sorry for him being wrongly accused.   Leaving a denial so long has contributed to the situation of making the allegations believable, it has to be said.  People would prefer not to believe the allegations, so undoing the damage would be very achievable.

If 'the prominent Tory abuser' wasn't Lord McAlpine, you wonder who it was, and how the misunderstanding as to identity ever arose.  From David Icke today, Steve Messham said that he not only had polaroid photographs of the ‘prominent Tory abuser’, but the man had told him who he was and how he would have him killed if he ever spoke out..

JULIA -  People are not innocent til proven guilty. They dont become guilty at the moment in time that a court proclaims them so. There are many many paedophiles out there who are "innocent" by that rule of thumb because they are never technically labelled guilty. 
Our whole justice system is set up this way for a reason, so that guilty people are not convicted and can be labelled "innocent". McAlpine has contacts and money. He is friends with everyone in the network, including Prince Charles.

People retract their statements to save themselves. (Apart from David Icke, who continues to be heavily ridiculed).

This whole whining piece of drivel from McAlpine and his lawyer smacks of the paedophile psychopathic mind. It is all about the suffering of McAlpine. Surely the millions of children that have suffered abuse have suffered far more than anyone accused of paedophilia ever has? If you read what he says, most of it could be applied to the suffering of an abused child. Things like it being the worst thing you could do to someone. 

McAlpine is twisting it around to make people feel sorry for poor little McAlpine. And we are distracted from feeling sorry for the kids, and acting to do something about it.
This is standard tactics, nothing new. Remember when the Savile story first became public, and people were upset that poor Savile was being accused after his death? Poor old Savile. Let's feel sorry for him. 

As far as I am concerned, McAlpine is pretty much proclaiming his own guilt. 
The end goal of any action must surely be to dismantle the whole system. Weeding out a few scapegoats like McAlpine will not fix it, though it is good mainstream publicity that such a network exists. There are so many more like him. The whole structure must be removed. And we can do that by withdrawing our support in our actions and thought. 

10 comments:

dognamedblue said...

I wonder if he has any comment on this?
http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/scallywag-article-lord-mcalpine-and.html

Chris Jones said...

Innocent until proven guilty has to be the standard. But why would so many people name the same man and if its not him who is it?

I have to say too - him decrying so blatlantly that his reputation cant be repaired seems unnesseccary - why would he openly declare that so soon? if i was a very cynical man,and generally speaking, i'd say that a statement of this sort could be construed as a semi confessionnal double bluff. But as i said ,that is pure conjecture of course - all are innocent until proven guilty.

Anonymous said...

What does he know of paedos in government, surely he knows something. Why the silence?

Tapestry said...

If he would become game-keeper turned poacher, as it were, and dob in some pedophiles, that would show that he was on the right side of all this, certainly. Silence other than denial is not exactly going to help him rebuild his reputation. The Savile revelations go to the very top of British society. Someone needs to take a lead in dealing with this.

David Morris said...

Take off your tin foil hats & take a look at "the Slog" blog.

Kind regards

Anonymous said...

the cover up continues

if the bbc has to pay compensation where do they get their money from?

some people never know when they have enough do they?

Julia said...

People are not innocent til proven guilty. They dont become guilty at the moment in time that a court proclaims them so. There are many many paedophiles out there who are "innocent" by that rule of thumb because they are never technically labelled guilty.
Our whole justice system is set up this way for a reason, so that guilty people are not convicted and can be labelled "innocent". McAlpine has contacts and money. He is friends with everyone in the network, including Prince Charles.
People retract their statements to save themselves. (Apart from David Icke, who continues to be heavily ridiculed).
This whole whining piece of drivel from McAlpine and his lawyer smacks of the paedophile psychopathic mind. It is all about the suffering of McAlpine. Surely the millions of children that have suffered abuse have suffered far more than anyone accused of paedophilia ever has? If you read what he says, most of it could be applied to the suffering of an abused child. Things like it being the worst thing you could do to someone.
McAlpine is twisting it around to make people feel sorry for poor little McAlpine. And we are distracted from feeling sorry for the kids, and acting to do something about it.
This is standard tactics, nothing new. Remember when the Savile story first became public, and people were upset that poor Savile was being accused after his death? Poor old Savile. Let's feel sorry for him.
As far as I am concerned, McAlpine is pretty much proclaiming his own guilt.
The end goal of any action must surely be to dismantle the whole system. Weeding out a few scapegoats like McAlpine will not fix it, though it is good mainstream publicity that such a network exists. There are so many more like him. The whole structure must be removed. And we can do that by withdrawing our support in our actions and thought.

Anonymous said...

McAlpine's lawyahs seem awfully keen to keep it from going to court, 'we will settle out of court' kind of thing. You have to hope someone does take it to court.

It's also becoming a Tory VS Labour narrative.

Anonymous said...

Hi Tap, Let's not forget, all the McAlpines will be Freemasons.
They have a Masonic duty to tip each other off about the case.
That's why they are all in it togther, one for all and all for Freemasons.

Toad Hall said...

Lord McAlpine on How To Deal With The Media: “Another option is for the businessperson to learn the art of dealing with the media, using all the tricks that go with that trade – such as the false defeat: when a person seems to lose, in order to gain public sympathy, or the false triumph: where a person seems to win in order to appear strong – thus giving credibility to any number of dubious propositions that person may wish to make in the future. Neither of these ploys are examples of the use of true facts, rather of false facts given to the media to chew on, much as a dog chews on a bone. Another useful ploy is the false accusation. First, create a situation where you are wrongly accused. Then, at a convenient moment, arrange for the false accusation to be shown to be false beyond all doubt. Those who have made accusations against both the company and its management become discredited. Further accusations will then be treated with great suspicion. Always remember that people’s memories are very frail, remembering only both the high spots and the lows of a person’s career, and then seldom remembering accurately. People believe in the facts that it suits them to believe.” http://www.amazon.co.uk/Machiavelli-The-Art-Politics-Business/dp/0471350958/

Found in comments in this article about Twitter on Inde.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/twitter-has-changed-the-rules-of-the-game-8326432.html